Posts by Half banana

if you were to read the watchtower literature and you believed it to be the exclusive divinely inspired interpretation of the bible, i suggest that you would not be learning anything useful, instead you would simply be absorbing the indoctrination of the jw org..

what is the difference between indoctrination and education?.

take any passage from the watchtower this sentence for example which assumes significance in the end of six thousand years of human history in 1975: “how then does this fit in with god’s timetable?”.

Half banana

I'm sure you are Ucantnome but I only grew up when I was about forty when I left behind the infantile beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses. So I apologise if I was projecting my own immaturity on others.

However I would maintain that mentally bright JWs are foolish and juvenile to allow their emotional/ religious life trump scientific truth. We should marshal our emotions and knowledge after knowing first what is actually true, not base our lives on Bible stories as taught by cult leaders.

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Why education is a killer for doomsday cults.

by Half banana in

if you were to read the watchtower literature and you believed it to be the exclusive divinely inspired interpretation of the bible, i suggest that you would not be learning anything useful, instead you would simply be absorbing the indoctrination of the jw org..

what is the difference between indoctrination and education?.

take any passage from the watchtower this sentence for example which assumes significance in the end of six thousand years of human history in 1975: “how then does this fit in with god’s timetable?”.

Half banana

@Ucantnome, JWs for the most part are not stupid but they are deceived or deluded.

Religion appeals to the emotional aspects of our being often at the expense of the logical. Humans can find emotional drives more powerful than any knowledge of the cosmos which might seem detached or merely abstract... but our feelings are what we live with and what we colour the world with.

It takes some growing up to step outside of a purely emotionally driven life.

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Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

by raven in

i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

Half banana

Lieu, didn't anyone tell you; Hollywood is not real life?

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Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

by raven in

i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

Half banana

The threat of a devil and demons is a fantastic way to get people to conform to a religious doctrine. The JW org play this card all the time. If you don't do what we say you are pleasing Satan... This is so childish, so black and white! Real life is not like this.

JWs and the early christ sects for that matter, made just the same warnings. It's a psychological trick, as they say: talk of the devil and he bound to appear.

Once a person researches cult religion and its mind control, it becomes apparent that these infantile methods work on the people who do concern themselves with the devil, those who have been held back in their education and natural development. Mature humans don't worry about invisible spirits unprovable fears and threats from another dimension, the real world has enough to worry about!...but our unfounded fears can be conquered.

Life is better than you think once you have shaken off the Watchtower mindset.

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Start A Butterfly Garden!

by Bonsai in

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time to take a break from debating religion.

take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

Half banana

Imaginative fence decoration Lisa Rose! In which part of the world do you live to be able to grow succulents? Do they stay out all year round? I see you have an agave and echeverias also a lovely acanthus in the ground. Any aeoniums? One of my favourite succulents is theHottentot fig Carpobrotus edulis but like most succulents it's not hardy in the UK except in the Scilly Isles, on the beaches in the far south west.

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Today's Text - Brainwash Your Children!

by Divergent in

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with the increasing number of young ones leaving "the truth", it is critical to brainwash them regularly from young!.

monday, may 16. the one who has dealings with the stupid will fare badly.—prov.

13:20.. a child could drift away gradually on a spiritually dangerous path, being tempted by harmful association or degrading entertainment.

Half banana

"Have dealings with the stupid and you will certainly fair badly." Prov 13:20

Been there and done that with the Watchtower organisation.

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New Article - Watchtower View of Homosexuality

by jwfacts in

i have thought about writing this article for many years, and the awake!

2014 no.4 was the final straw.

there it states that jehovah's witnesses show no prejudice towards homosexuals, and "they neither mock nor mistreat people whose practices differ from their own.

Half banana

I think that the Los Angeles Times science correspondents need to do some research to understand what they are reporting. The article on twins DNA whilst comparing results of different research, tends to assume that homosexuality must be epigenetic and its a matter of finding it. A genetic cause of homosexuality had been sought for a number of years since genes falsely appeared to be the answer to all biology questions.

Yet it would be with good reason, not to expect to find a specific 'homosexual' gene because exclusive homosexual activity so programmed in any species would soon render its bearer's lineage extinct. Which is another reason why at birth, sexual preference need not be differentiated, just the impulse for sexual activity must be latent in the newborn. This does not imply that same sex preference may indeed be found to be caused or influenced by epigenetic factors.

The other article from the same newspaper on a 4500 year old Ethiopian was all over the place and made little sense so it might be better to look to the scientific data in the first place rather than rough journalism.

@ Balaam's ass, funny how God is so obsessed with regulating human sex...

I have an idea that the gay Bethelite is often trying to resolve the terrible dilemma he suffers from by using the anti gay rhetoric to reinforce his determination to battle it out inside the organisation. I imagine most fail. It must be dreadful.

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New Article - Watchtower View of Homosexuality

by jwfacts in

i have thought about writing this article for many years, and the awake!

2014 no.4 was the final straw.

there it states that jehovah's witnesses show no prejudice towards homosexuals, and "they neither mock nor mistreat people whose practices differ from their own.

Half banana

I think that the Los Angeles Times science correspondents need to do some research to understand what they are reporting. The article on twins DNA whilst comparing results of different research, tends to assume that homosexuality must be genetic and its a matter of locating it. This had been the case for a number of years since genes falsely appeared to be the answer to all biology questions.

Yet it would be with good reason, not to expect to find a specific 'homosexual' gene because exclusive homosexual activity so programmed in any species would soon render its bearer's lineage extinct. Which is another reason why at birth, sexual preference need not be differentiated, just the impulse for sexual activity must be latent in the newborn. This does not imply that same sex preference may indeed be found to be caused by epigenetic factors.

The other article from the same newspaper on a 4500 year old Ethiopian was all over the place and made little sense so it might be better to look to the scientific data in the first place rather than rough journalism.

@ Balaam's ass, funny how God is so obsessed with regulating human sex...

I have an idea that the gay Bethelite is often trying to resolve the terrible dilemma he suffers from by using the anti gay rhetoric to reinforce his determination to battle it out inside the organisation. I imagine most fail. It must be dreadful.